HDD vypinanie a zapinanie

[johnnycage]

Zdravim.
Pouzivam notebook Lenovo G550. Je tam pevny disk WD Scorpio Blue 320 GB SATA Hard Drives (WD3200BEVT). Neviem ako by som to popisal, ale mam pocit, ako keby sa disk kazdu chvilku vypinal, resp. zapinal. Napr. niekedy 2x, niekedy 3x za minutu sa disk akoby znovu rozbiehal. Toto sa deje normalne za chodu systemu. Pri praci to vyzera asi tak, ze ked napriklad pozeram film, tak pri tomto "nabiehani" sa film na 1-2 sekundy zasekne a po tomto case, ked uz disk bezi ako ma sa rozbehne aj film (toto nabiehanie je aj pocut, teda akoby sa zvysovali otacky + spominane zaseknutie systemu na 1-2 sekundy). Stava sa to v podstate pri kazdej praci. Idem otvorit Nautilus a ked sa disk zacne rozbiehat, tak sa vsetko na chvilku zasekne. Deje sa to ci uz pri napajani zo siete, alebo na bateriu. Notebook pouzivam v podstate kazdy den od Septembra roku 2009, cize cca nejakeho pol roka. V prilohe zasielam vypis S.M.A.R.T.-u. Ak by boli treba este nejake informacie, samozrejme ich poskytnem. Rad by som vedel, ci to je nejaka vada, alebo to tak ma byt, ci to disku skodi, alebo nie, ci to znizuje zivotnost, ci by nebolo lepsie to odstranit. V podstate teda by som rad ziskal nejake informacie o tomto "jave". OS pouzivam Debian Testing, Gnome 2.28.2, Kernel 2.6.32, teplota disku sa pohybuje v okoli 44°C.

Tu je vypis S.M.A.R.T.-u:

Kód: [Vybrat]

smartctl 5.40 2010-02-03 r3060 [i686-pc-linux-gnu] (local build)
Copyright (C) 2002-10 by Bruce Allen, http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net

=== START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
Model Family:     Western Digital Scorpio Blue Serial ATA family
Device Model:     WDC WD3200BEVT-22ZCT0
Serial Number:    WD-WXF0A59T6302
Firmware Version: 11.01A11
User Capacity:    320 072 933 376 bytes
Device is:        In smartctl database [for details use: -P show]
ATA Version is:   8
ATA Standard is:  Exact ATA specification draft version not indicated
Local Time is:    Sat Mar 27 21:49:28 2010 CET
SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability.
SMART support is: Enabled

=== START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED

General SMART Values:
Offline data collection status:  (0x00) Offline data collection activity
was never started.
Auto Offline Data Collection: Disabled.
Self-test execution status:      (   0) The previous self-test routine completed
without error or no self-test has ever
been run.
Total time to complete Offline
data collection: (9960) seconds.
Offline data collection
capabilities: (0x7b) SMART execute Offline immediate.
Auto Offline data collection on/off support.
Suspend Offline collection upon new
command.
Offline surface scan supported.
Self-test supported.
Conveyance Self-test supported.
Selective Self-test supported.
SMART capabilities:            (0x0003) Saves SMART data before entering
power-saving mode.
Supports SMART auto save timer.
Error logging capability:        (0x01) Error logging supported.
General Purpose Logging supported.
Short self-test routine
recommended polling time: (   2) minutes.
Extended self-test routine
recommended polling time: ( 118) minutes.
Conveyance self-test routine
recommended polling time: (   5) minutes.
SCT capabilities:        (0x303f) SCT Status supported.
SCT Feature Control supported.
SCT Data Table supported.

SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 16
Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds:
ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME          FLAG     VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE      UPDATED  WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE
  1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate     0x002f   200   200   051    Pre-fail  Always       -       0
  3 Spin_Up_Time            0x0027   189   186   021    Pre-fail  Always       -       1550
  4 Start_Stop_Count        0x0032   038   038   000    Old_age   Always       -       62852
  5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct   0x0033   200   200   140    Pre-fail  Always       -       0
  7 Seek_Error_Rate         0x002e   100   253   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
  9 Power_On_Hours          0x0032   098   098   000    Old_age   Always       -       1906
 10 Spin_Retry_Count        0x0033   100   100   051    Pre-fail  Always       -       0
 11 Calibration_Retry_Count 0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
 12 Power_Cycle_Count       0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       445
192 Power-Off_Retract_Count 0x0032   200   200   000    Old_age   Always       -       49
193 Load_Cycle_Count        0x0032   177   177   000    Old_age   Always       -       70715
194 Temperature_Celsius     0x0022   103   095   000    Old_age   Always       -       44
196 Reallocated_Event_Count 0x0032   200   200   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
197 Current_Pending_Sector  0x0032   200   200   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
198 Offline_Uncorrectable   0x0030   100   253   000    Old_age   Offline      -       0
199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count    0x0032   200   200   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
200 Multi_Zone_Error_Rate   0x0009   100   253   051    Pre-fail  Offline      -       0

SMART Error Log Version: 1
No Errors Logged

SMART Self-test log structure revision number 1
Num  Test_Description    Status                  Remaining  LifeTime(hours)  LBA_of_first_error
# 1  Short offline       Completed without error       00%      1906         -
# 2  Short offline       Completed without error       00%        55         -
# 3  Short offline       Completed without error       00%         0         -

SMART Selective self-test log data structure revision number 1
 SPAN  MIN_LBA  MAX_LBA  CURRENT_TEST_STATUS
    1        0        0  Not_testing
    2        0        0  Not_testing
    3        0        0  Not_testing
    4        0        0  Not_testing
    5        0        0  Not_testing
Selective self-test flags (0x0):
  After scanning selected spans, do NOT read-scan remainder of disk.
If Selective self-test is pending on power-up, resume after 0 minute delay.



[Reklama]

[ludvik]

priloz prosim aj vypis z dmesg

[johnnycage]

Tu je vypis dmesg:

Kód: [Vybrat]

[    1.708116] ata1: SATA link up 3.0 Gbps (SStatus 123 SControl 300)
[    1.751440] ata1.00: ATA-8: WDC WD3200BEVT-22ZCT0, 11.01A11, max UDMA/133
[    1.751505] ata1.00: 625142448 sectors, multi 16: LBA48 NCQ (depth 31/32), AA
[    1.754073] ata1.00: configured for UDMA/133
[    1.769339] scsi 0:0:0:0: Direct-Access     ATA      WDC WD3200BEVT-2 11.0 PQ: 0 ANSI: 5
[    1.825013] usb 2-3: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 3
[    1.910998] [drm] LVDS-8: set mode 1366x768 14
[    2.072812] usb 2-3: New USB device found, idVendor=5986, idProduct=0145
[    2.072815] usb 2-3: New USB device strings: Mfr=3, Product=1, SerialNumber=0
[    2.072817] usb 2-3: Product: Lenovo EasyCamera
[    2.072819] usb 2-3: Manufacturer: Bison Electronics Inc.
[    2.072890] usb 2-3: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
[    2.496027] ata2: SATA link up 1.5 Gbps (SStatus 113 SControl 300)
[    2.509775] ata2.00: ATAPI: Optiarc DVD RW AD-7580S, F806, max UDMA/100, ATAPI AN
[    2.523994] ata2.00: configured for UDMA/100
[    2.539427] scsi 1:0:0:0: CD-ROM            Optiarc  DVD RW AD-7580S  F806 PQ: 0 ANSI: 5
[    2.571610] Console: switching to colour frame buffer device 170x48
[    2.576934] fb0: inteldrmfb frame buffer device
[    2.576936] registered panic notifier
[    2.580217] acpi device:07: registered as cooling_device0
[    2.580538] input: Video Bus as /devices/LNXSYSTM:00/LNXSYBUS:00/PNP0A08:00/LNXVIDEO:01/input/input5
[    2.580614] ACPI: Video Device [GFX0] (multi-head: yes  rom: no  post: no)
[    2.580702] [drm] Initialized i915 1.6.0 20080730 for 0000:00:02.0 on minor 0
[    2.580832] uhci_hcd 0000:00:1a.0: PCI INT A -> GSI 16 (level, low) -> IRQ 16
[    2.580898] uhci_hcd 0000:00:1a.0: setting latency timer to 64
[    2.580902] uhci_hcd 0000:00:1a.0: UHCI Host Controller
[    2.580956] uhci_hcd 0000:00:1a.0: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 3
[    2.581060] uhci_hcd 0000:00:1a.0: irq 16, io base 0x00001820
[    2.581144] usb usb3: New USB device found, idVendor=1d6b, idProduct=0001
[    2.581199] usb usb3: New USB device strings: Mfr=3, Product=2, SerialNumber=1
[    2.581259] usb usb3: Product: UHCI Host Controller
[    2.582351] usb usb3: Manufacturer: Linux 2.6.32-3-686 uhci_hcd
[    2.583478] usb usb3: SerialNumber: 0000:00:1a.0
[    2.584722] usb usb3: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
[    2.585927] hub 3-0:1.0: USB hub found
[    2.587155] hub 3-0:1.0: 2 ports detected
[    2.588434] uhci_hcd 0000:00:1a.1: PCI INT B -> GSI 21 (level, low) -> IRQ 21
[    2.589723] uhci_hcd 0000:00:1a.1: setting latency timer to 64
[    2.589727] uhci_hcd 0000:00:1a.1: UHCI Host Controller
[    2.591067] uhci_hcd 0000:00:1a.1: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 4
[    2.592482] uhci_hcd 0000:00:1a.1: irq 21, io base 0x00001840
[    2.593898] usb usb4: New USB device found, idVendor=1d6b, idProduct=0001
[    2.595330] usb usb4: New USB device strings: Mfr=3, Product=2, SerialNumber=1
[    2.596798] usb usb4: Product: UHCI Host Controller
[    2.598262] usb usb4: Manufacturer: Linux 2.6.32-3-686 uhci_hcd
[    2.599786] usb usb4: SerialNumber: 0000:00:1a.1
[    2.601410] usb usb4: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
[    2.603034] hub 4-0:1.0: USB hub found
[    2.604665] hub 4-0:1.0: 2 ports detected
[    2.606325] uhci_hcd 0000:00:1a.2: PCI INT C -> GSI 20 (level, low) -> IRQ 20
[    2.608005] uhci_hcd 0000:00:1a.2: setting latency timer to 64
[    2.608009] uhci_hcd 0000:00:1a.2: UHCI Host Controller
[    2.609735] uhci_hcd 0000:00:1a.2: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 5
[    2.611523] uhci_hcd 0000:00:1a.2: irq 20, io base 0x00001860
[    2.613337] usb usb5: New USB device found, idVendor=1d6b, idProduct=0001
[    2.615149] usb usb5: New USB device strings: Mfr=3, Product=2, SerialNumber=1
[    2.617042] usb usb5: Product: UHCI Host Controller
[    2.618893] usb usb5: Manufacturer: Linux 2.6.32-3-686 uhci_hcd
[    2.620737] usb usb5: SerialNumber: 0000:00:1a.2
[    2.622633] usb usb5: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
[    2.624508] hub 5-0:1.0: USB hub found
[    2.626364] hub 5-0:1.0: 2 ports detected
[    2.628240] uhci_hcd 0000:00:1d.0: PCI INT A -> GSI 23 (level, low) -> IRQ 23
[    2.630090] uhci_hcd 0000:00:1d.0: setting latency timer to 64
[    2.630094] uhci_hcd 0000:00:1d.0: UHCI Host Controller
[    2.631935] uhci_hcd 0000:00:1d.0: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 6
[    2.633838] uhci_hcd 0000:00:1d.0: irq 23, io base 0x00001880
[    2.635665] usb usb6: New USB device found, idVendor=1d6b, idProduct=0001
[    2.637439] usb usb6: New USB device strings: Mfr=3, Product=2, SerialNumber=1
[    2.639226] usb usb6: Product: UHCI Host Controller
[    2.641010] usb usb6: Manufacturer: Linux 2.6.32-3-686 uhci_hcd
[    2.642786] usb usb6: SerialNumber: 0000:00:1d.0
[    2.644606] usb usb6: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
[    2.646364] hub 6-0:1.0: USB hub found
[    2.648087] hub 6-0:1.0: 2 ports detected
[    2.649812] uhci_hcd 0000:00:1d.1: PCI INT B -> GSI 19 (level, low) -> IRQ 19
[    2.651510] uhci_hcd 0000:00:1d.1: setting latency timer to 64
[    2.651514] uhci_hcd 0000:00:1d.1: UHCI Host Controller
[    2.653238] uhci_hcd 0000:00:1d.1: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 7
[    2.655007] uhci_hcd 0000:00:1d.1: irq 19, io base 0x000018a0
[    2.656749] usb usb7: New USB device found, idVendor=1d6b, idProduct=0001
[    2.658475] usb usb7: New USB device strings: Mfr=3, Product=2, SerialNumber=1
[    2.660207] usb usb7: Product: UHCI Host Controller
[    2.661916] usb usb7: Manufacturer: Linux 2.6.32-3-686 uhci_hcd
[    2.663636] usb usb7: SerialNumber: 0000:00:1d.1
[    2.665417] usb usb7: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
[    2.667169] hub 7-0:1.0: USB hub found
[    2.668915] hub 7-0:1.0: 2 ports detected
[    2.670634] uhci_hcd 0000:00:1d.2: PCI INT C -> GSI 18 (level, low) -> IRQ 18
[    2.672347] uhci_hcd 0000:00:1d.2: setting latency timer to 64
[    2.672351] uhci_hcd 0000:00:1d.2: UHCI Host Controller
[    2.674077] uhci_hcd 0000:00:1d.2: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 8
[    2.675854] uhci_hcd 0000:00:1d.2: irq 18, io base 0x000018c0
[    2.677603] usb usb8: New USB device found, idVendor=1d6b, idProduct=0001
[    2.679327] usb usb8: New USB device strings: Mfr=3, Product=2, SerialNumber=1
[    2.681062] usb usb8: Product: UHCI Host Controller
[    2.682773] usb usb8: Manufacturer: Linux 2.6.32-3-686 uhci_hcd
[    2.684516] usb usb8: SerialNumber: 0000:00:1d.2
[    2.686300] usb usb8: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
[    2.688080] hub 8-0:1.0: USB hub found
[    2.689813] hub 8-0:1.0: 2 ports detected
[    2.856019] ata5: SATA link down (SStatus 0 SControl 300)
[    2.879574] sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] 625142448 512-byte logical blocks: (320 GB/298 GiB)
[    2.881394] sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Write Protect is off
[    2.883124] sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Mode Sense: 00 3a 00 00
[    2.883145] sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Write cache: enabled, read cache: enabled, doesn't support DPO or FUA
[    2.885044]  sda:
[    2.904014] usb 3-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 2
[    2.920256]  sda1 sda2 < sda5 sda6 > sda3
[    2.947278] sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Attached SCSI disk
[    2.958989] sr0: scsi3-mmc drive: 24x/24x writer dvd-ram cd/rw xa/form2 cdda tray
[    2.960845] Uniform CD-ROM driver Revision: 3.20
[    2.962786] sr 1:0:0:0: Attached scsi CD-ROM sr0
[    2.967005] sd 0:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg0 type 0
[    2.968934] sr 1:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg1 type 5
[    3.083230] usb 3-1: New USB device found, idVendor=0a5c, idProduct=2150
[    3.085096] usb 3-1: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=3
[    3.086923] usb 3-1: Product: BCM2046 Bluetooth Device
[    3.088741] usb 3-1: Manufacturer: Broadcom Corp
[    3.090534] usb 3-1: SerialNumber: 002556C29C49
[    3.092421] usb 3-1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
[    3.208010] usb 6-1: new low speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 2
[    3.381802] usb 6-1: New USB device found, idVendor=15d9, idProduct=0a4d
[    3.383679] usb 6-1: New USB device strings: Mfr=0, Product=1, SerialNumber=0
[    3.385637] usb 6-1: Product:  USB OPTICAL MOUSE
[    3.387679] usb 6-1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
[    3.401247] usbcore: registered new interface driver hiddev
[    3.418043] input:  USB OPTICAL MOUSE as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.0/usb6/6-1/6-1:1.0/input/input6
[    3.420135] generic-usb 0003:15D9:0A4D.0001: input,hidraw0: USB HID v1.11 Mouse [ USB OPTICAL MOUSE] on usb-0000:00:1d.0-1/input0
[    3.422200] usbcore: registered new interface driver usbhid
[    3.424289] usbhid: v2.6:USB HID core driver
[    3.504126] kjournald starting.  Commit interval 5 seconds
[    3.505021] EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data mode.
[    5.273215] udev: starting version 151
[    5.990413] ACPI: SSDT bdb1aca0 00223 (v01  PmRef  Cpu0Ist 00003000 INTL 20050624)
[    5.993161] ACPI: SSDT bdb19620 00549 (v01  PmRef  Cpu0Cst 00003001 INTL 20050624)
[    5.995697] ACPI: AC Adapter [ACAD] (on-line)
[    5.998413] Monitor-Mwait will be used to enter C-1 state
[    5.998441] Monitor-Mwait will be used to enter C-2 state
[    5.998446] Marking TSC unstable due to TSC halts in idle
[    6.000765] processor LNXCPU:00: registered as cooling_device1
[    6.003542] ACPI: SSDT bdb1aa20 001CF (v01  PmRef    ApIst 00003000 INTL 20050624)
[    6.006166] ACPI: SSDT bdb1af20 0008D (v01  PmRef    ApCst 00003000 INTL 20050624)
[    6.008435] Switching to clocksource hpet
[    6.014162] processor LNXCPU:01: registered as cooling_device2
[    6.044988] i801_smbus 0000:00:1f.3: PCI INT C -> GSI 19 (level, low) -> IRQ 19
[    6.047329] ACPI: I/O resource 0000:00:1f.3 [0x1c00-0x1c1f] conflicts with ACPI region SMBI [0x1c00-0x1c0f]
[    6.049653] ACPI: If an ACPI driver is available for this device, you should use it instead of the native driver
[    6.080406] ACPI: Battery Slot [BAT1] (battery present)
[    6.123304] Bluetooth: Core ver 2.15
[    6.126021] NET: Registered protocol family 31
[    6.128364] Bluetooth: HCI device and connection manager initialized
[    6.130683] Bluetooth: HCI socket layer initialized
[    6.147326] lib80211: common routines for IEEE802.11 drivers
[    6.149773] lib80211_crypt: registered algorithm 'NULL'
[    6.187729] Bluetooth: Generic Bluetooth USB driver ver 0.6
[    6.190178] usbcore: registered new interface driver btusb
[    6.230951] Linux video capture interface: v2.00
[    6.248169] uvcvideo: Found UVC 1.00 device Lenovo EasyCamera (5986:0145)
[    6.253244] input: Lenovo EasyCamera as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.7/usb2/2-3/2-3:1.0/input/input7
[    6.255984] usbcore: registered new interface driver uvcvideo
[    6.258440] USB Video Class driver (v0.1.0)
[    6.358491] wl: module license 'MIXED/Proprietary' taints kernel.
[    6.360926] Disabling lock debugging due to kernel taint
[    6.370483] wl 0000:04:00.0: PCI INT A -> GSI 18 (level, low) -> IRQ 18
[    6.372930] wl 0000:04:00.0: setting latency timer to 64
[    6.544569] lib80211_crypt: registered algorithm 'TKIP'
[    6.544909] eth1: Broadcom BCM4315 802.11 Hybrid Wireless Controller 5.60.48.36
[    6.569645] HDA Intel 0000:00:1b.0: power state changed by ACPI to D0
[    6.572019] HDA Intel 0000:00:1b.0: PCI INT A -> GSI 22 (level, low) -> IRQ 22
[    6.574377] HDA Intel 0000:00:1b.0: setting latency timer to 64
[    6.975906] input: HDA Intel Mic as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1b.0/sound/card0/input8
[    6.978397] input: HDA Intel Mic as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1b.0/sound/card0/input9
[    6.980786] input: HDA Intel Headphone as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1b.0/sound/card0/input10
[    7.275639] input: PS/2 Mouse as /devices/platform/i8042/serio1/input/input11
[    7.338002] input: AlpsPS/2 ALPS GlidePoint as /devices/platform/i8042/serio1/input/input12
[    8.580742] EXT3 FS on sda5, internal journal
[    9.357942] kjournald starting.  Commit interval 5 seconds
[    9.360309] EXT3 FS on sda6, internal journal
[    9.362395] EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data mode.
[    9.906464] loop: module loaded
[    9.977917] vboxdrv: Trying to deactivate the NMI watchdog permanently...
[    9.977920] vboxdrv: Warning: 2.6.31+ kernel detected. Most likely the hardware performance
[    9.977922] vboxdrv: counter framework which can generate NMIs is active. You have to prevent
[    9.977923] vboxdrv: the usage of hardware performance counters by
[    9.977924] vboxdrv:   echo 2 > /proc/sys/kernel/perf_counter_paranoid
[    9.986162] vboxdrv: Found 2 processor cores.
[    9.986240] vboxdrv: fAsync=0 offMin=0x17c offMax=0x2e90
[    9.988261] vboxdrv: TSC mode is 'synchronous', kernel timer mode is 'normal'.
[    9.990293] vboxdrv: Successfully loaded version 3.1.6 (interface 0x00100001).
[   10.585738] tg3 0000:07:00.0: irq 31 for MSI/MSI-X
[   10.613874] ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): eth0: link is not ready
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[   12.106006] input: ACPI Virtual Keyboard Device as /devices/virtual/input/input13
[   13.877776] apm: BIOS not found.
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[Phokz]

Váš Start_Stop_Count = 62852

Já mám u cca 2x staršího disku
Start_Stop_Count = 973

Takže ano, disk se patrně častěji vypíná a zapíná.

Používáte laptop mode? Děje se to bez ohledu na připojení k el. sítí?

[Roman Ďuriška]

Co je laptop mode? ... ano, deje sa to bez ohladu na napajanie. Teda robi to stale, ci som pripojeny na elektricku siet, alebo bezim na bateriu.

[Reklama]

[trubicoid]

a co rika hdparm -B /dev/sda? vetsinou to bude kolem 128, muzes zkusit to cislo zvetsit na 198 nebo 254 a 255, to by melo eventuelne usinani uplne vypnout

jinak novy WD meli nejakou utilitu do dosu, kterou se dalo ovladat casovac disku, nez dojde k head-unload; akorat ta ultilita neni verejna a jmenuje se nejak wdidle3 nebo wdide3

[trubicoid]

laptop mode:
cat /proc/sys/vm/laptop_mode

0 .. vypnuto
5 .. zapnuto

[Roman Ďuriška]

Takze hodnota je nastavena na 128:

Kód: [Vybrat]

# hdparm -B /dev/sda
/dev/sda:
 APM_level = 128
a laptop mod je vypnuty:

Kód: [Vybrat]

# cat /proc/sys/vm/laptop_mode
0

[trubicoid]

tak to zkus zmenit treba na hdparm -B 254 /dev/sda

jinak ta utilita je zde: http://www.synology.com/support/faq_images/enu/wdidle3.zip

[Roman Ďuriška]

Okej, skusim nastavit hodnotu na tych 254. A aky je rozdiel medzi hodnotou 254 a 255? V manualovych strankach som cital, ze hodntoa 128-254 vypne spin-down a hodnota 254 vypne uplne Advanced Power Managemenet, ale nerozumiem celkom tomu rozdielu a o co sa vlastne jedna.

Ked zmenim tu hodnotu z tych 128 na 254, aky to bude mat vplyv na HDD? Nebude sa viacej prehrievat, alebo neznizi sa zivotnost? Alebo ze by som napr. pri otrasoch prisiel o data, resp. o disk? Alebo sa jedna len o setrenie energie? Cize ked som napajany z baterie, aby bol odber co najmensi, resp. aby som usetril energiu?

[trubicoid]

no skoro vsechny disky maji nastavitelnej APM parametr 0-255, ale jak je potom ta hodnota interpretovana, to zalezi na disku

vetsinou jde o par stavu, takze 128 a 129 je to stejny, kdezto 192 je treba uz jiny stav

cim vyssi cislo, tim min bude sporit energii a min vypinat disk, coz je asi to, co bys chtel

je otazka, jestli ti disk driv odejde na caste vypinani/zapinani nebo na to, ze jede dlouho bez zastaveni

[Roman Ďuriška]

Teraz si ma trochu zneistil Pokladam si otazku, ci ma vobec vyznam vypinat to, ci neni lepsie to nechat tak ako to nastavil system. Pozeral som datasheet k tomu mojmu disku a konkretne tam bola uvedena aj hodnota Load_Cycle_Count. Maximum je 600.000 a moj disk ukazuje po cca pol roku pouzivania nejakych 70.000. Hladal som v datasheete aj polozku Start_Stop_Count, ale tu som tam nenasiel.
BTW po nastaveni cisla 128 na 254 mi teplota stupla na nejakych 51°C a tam sa aj drzala. Pri cisle 128 sa teplota pohybuje ako som uz spomenul, okolo 44°C.

[trubicoid]

no podle me je to hodne 70k Load cycle za pul roku, pak by v prumeru disk chcipnul za 4 roky

kdyz uplne APM vypnes, tak mas teplotu o 7 stupnu vyssi? ja bych teda to APM nechal zapnuty na ten nejhorsi stupen t.j. asi 254, jestli se nebude casto vypinat a kdyz se pak vypne, aby mu poklesla teplota

hlavne bych resil to, aby disk neusinal v prubehu prehravani filmu, jinak kazdej disk muze vzdy chcipnout a casto se to i deje 

[Roman Ďuriška]

Musim zase obnovit tento thread, bo vyskytli sa nejake dalsie "problemy", resp. otazky. Pri zakladani tejto temy som pouzival dva systemy, Debian Testing a WinXP. Pri Win som si tie teploty nevsimal. Teraz uz pouzivam len Debian Testing a ziadny iny system na NB nemam. Pridal som si sledovac teploty HDD, tak to stale sledujem.
Precital som si clanok http://www.root.cz/clanky/jak-na-uspavani-disku-v-linuxu/, ale bohuzial aj po precitani clanku neviem, ako mam disk nastavit tak, aby bol a co najnizsia teplota, ale zaroven, aby tak prudko nestupal Load_cycle_count.
Ten dalsi problem, co som spominal je, ze teplota sa zacala splhat az cez 50°. Stalo sa to akosi normalne, ze zapnem NB a cca o pol hodinky mam teplotu HDD vysplhanu na 50° a to je bez zataze. Pri zatazi sa mi teplota vysplha aj na 55°. Raz som dokonca hral hodinu v kuse UT2004 a teplota sa vysplhala az na 59°. Vyrobca udava, ze pracovna teplota je 0-60°.
Zacal som si to az teraz vsimat, asi tyzden dozadu, ked sa ta teplota vysplhala az na tych 59°. Nasiel som identicky problem na Ubuntu: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1405156 a je to vraj nejaky bug, teda ak som to dobre pochopil: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/521295, len som sa nedocital, ako to napravit a v com vlastne ten bug spociva. Tak ma napadlo, ci by ten isty bug nemohol byt aj v Debian-e.
Pozrel som znova informacie zo S.M.A.R.T-u a Load_cycle je opat zvyseny na dost vysokom cisle (teraz ma NB cca 10 mesiacov):

Kód: [Vybrat]

smartctl 5.40 2010-03-16 r3077 [x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu] (local build)
Copyright (C) 2002-10 by Bruce Allen, http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net

=== START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
Model Family:     Western Digital Scorpio Blue Serial ATA family
Device Model:     WDC WD3200BEVT-22ZCT0
Serial Number:    WD-WXF0A59T6302
Firmware Version: 11.01A11
User Capacity:    320 072 933 376 bytes
Device is:        In smartctl database [for details use: -P show]
ATA Version is:   8
ATA Standard is:  Exact ATA specification draft version not indicated
Local Time is:    Tue Jul  6 14:46:59 2010 CEST
SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability.
SMART support is: Enabled

=== START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED

General SMART Values:
Offline data collection status:  (0x00) Offline data collection activity
was never started.
Auto Offline Data Collection: Disabled.
Self-test execution status:      (   0) The previous self-test routine completed
without error or no self-test has ever
been run.
Total time to complete Offline
data collection: (9960) seconds.
Offline data collection
capabilities: (0x7b) SMART execute Offline immediate.
Auto Offline data collection on/off support.
Suspend Offline collection upon new
command.
Offline surface scan supported.
Self-test supported.
Conveyance Self-test supported.
Selective Self-test supported.
SMART capabilities:            (0x0003) Saves SMART data before entering
power-saving mode.
Supports SMART auto save timer.
Error logging capability:        (0x01) Error logging supported.
General Purpose Logging supported.
Short self-test routine
recommended polling time: (   2) minutes.
Extended self-test routine
recommended polling time: ( 118) minutes.
Conveyance self-test routine
recommended polling time: (   5) minutes.
SCT capabilities:        (0x303f) SCT Status supported.
SCT Error Recovery Control supported.
SCT Feature Control supported.
SCT Data Table supported.

SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 16
Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds:
ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME          FLAG     VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE      UPDATED  WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE
  1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate     0x002f   200   200   051    Pre-fail  Always       -       0
  3 Spin_Up_Time            0x0027   187   186   021    Pre-fail  Always       -       1625
  4 Start_Stop_Count        0x0032   037   037   000    Old_age   Always       -       63118
  5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct   0x0033   200   200   140    Pre-fail  Always       -       0
  7 Seek_Error_Rate         0x002e   100   253   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
  9 Power_On_Hours          0x0032   096   096   000    Old_age   Always       -       2992
 10 Spin_Retry_Count        0x0033   100   100   051    Pre-fail  Always       -       0
 11 Calibration_Retry_Count 0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
 12 Power_Cycle_Count       0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       639
192 Power-Off_Retract_Count 0x0032   200   200   000    Old_age   Always       -       55
193 Load_Cycle_Count        0x0032   161   161   000    Old_age   Always       -       117152
194 Temperature_Celsius     0x0022   096   088   000    Old_age   Always       -       51
196 Reallocated_Event_Count 0x0032   200   200   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
197 Current_Pending_Sector  0x0032   200   200   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
198 Offline_Uncorrectable   0x0030   100   253   000    Old_age   Offline      -       0
199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count    0x0032   200   200   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
200 Multi_Zone_Error_Rate   0x0009   100   253   051    Pre-fail  Offline      -       0

SMART Error Log Version: 1
No Errors Logged

SMART Self-test log structure revision number 1
Num  Test_Description    Status                  Remaining  LifeTime(hours)  LBA_of_first_error
# 1  Short offline       Completed without error       00%      1906         -
# 2  Short offline       Completed without error       00%        55         -
# 3  Short offline       Completed without error       00%         0         -

SMART Selective self-test log data structure revision number 1
 SPAN  MIN_LBA  MAX_LBA  CURRENT_TEST_STATUS
    1        0        0  Not_testing
    2        0        0  Not_testing
    3        0        0  Not_testing
    4        0        0  Not_testing
    5        0        0  Not_testing
Selective self-test flags (0x0):
  After scanning selected spans, do NOT read-scan remainder of disk.
If Selective self-test is pending on power-up, resume after 0 minute delay.

Normalne sa aj bojim robit nejaku vacsiu cinnost, aby disk neodisiel.

[trubicoid2]

nojo, tak to mas tezky 

tak si zapni zpet APM a usinani a disk se bude casto parkovat/vypinat treba pomoci hdparm -B 1 /dev/sda a hdparm -S 1 /dev/sda

pravdepodobne poroste load-cycle-count, ale zase budes mit nizkou teplotu 

nejlepsi bude asi nejaka stredni cesta

jeste se da snizit rychlost vychylovani hlavicek, coz jednak snizuje hlucnost disku v random-read zatezi, ale i vykon; no mohlo by to trochu pomoct snizit teplotu v zatezi: hdparm -M 128 /dev/sda

a pak pomuze chladici podlozka pod notebook, pripadne jeste odsroubovat dvirka pod diskem, aby na nej foukal chladny vzduch

a na zaver bych doporucil delat casteji long-test (jeste jsi ho nedelal) pomoci smartctl -t long /dev/sda; tim zjistis, kdy zacne disk chcipat

a na pocitaci se pracovat neboj, disk je jenom smrtelna soucastka, kdyz odejde, tak koupis/vyreklamujes novej, nahrajes zalohu a je to, ne? 

jinak pro srovnani ja mam 60GB WD Scorpio, ten radeji ani teplotu nehlasi, ale ma load-cycle-count na 268k za 9800 hodin, ale protoze si lidi na vysoky load-cycle-count stezuji, novy WD disky a konkurence uz to radeji nereportuji